My guest is best-selling author William Paul Young. Paul is the author of books like, ‘Lies We Believe About God,’ ‘Eve,’ and ‘Crossroads.’ He’s best known for his book, ‘The Shack.’ There's a very good chance that you've heard of it because over 23 million copies of the book are in print. It's been translated into over 50 languages. Listen To The Podcast: RESOURCES: Paul’s Website: http://wmpaulyoung.com TRANSCRIPT:  Mitch Matthews: When Paul wrote the book though, he wasn't a successful author, he wasn't sitting on a big advance. In fact, he was working three jobs and barely making ends meet. Heck, he wasn't even thinking about writing a book, he was simply trying to create a gift for his kids, but out of all of that came this international bestseller. It's an incredible story, it's made a huge impact on me personally and based on the feedback from all of you, geesh, I've heard from so many of you, so many of you that it's made a huge impact on you too. So, we're going to talk about this journey of writing it, some of the things he's learned along the way and what he's up to next, so let's get to this. Paul, welcome to DREAM THINK DO, buddy. Paul Young: Hey, I'm glad to be here. It's about time. Mitch Matthews: It is about time. It's funny because before I hit record, we were talking about that the last time we officially did an interview was for before the DREAM THINK DO podcast even existed, which means it was over 4, 5 years ago which is nuts. Paul Young: Yeah, and you've grown up. Mitch Matthews: I know, right, all grow up. I got a lot more gray in the old goatee I'll tell you, my friend, since the last time, sheesh, so...And things are good? Paul Young: Things are good. We've got 12 grandbabies who are eleven years old and under and nine of them are within 15 minutes, so... Mitch Matthews: That's an aerobic program! You don't need a gym membership, my man. Paul Young: I know. Mitch Matthews: You've got the grandkids plan. Paul Young: No kidding and it's the best. It's the best. I love being a grandfather. Mitch Matthews: That's awesome. That is so awesome. So, what's going to be fun about this interview is I've put this out, a lot of time if I've got somebody that I think DREAM THINK DO listeners are really going to be interested in, I put it out to them to say, "Hey, what questions would you ask?" And we got more questions for you than I've probably have had for any other guest, which is so cool. Some of them are so fun, so profound, all of that, deep. So, we're going to go after those as I pepper in some of mine because it's my show. I get to make the call. Paul Young: There you go. Mitch Matthews: I can have some of my questions too. All right, so, let's go back to... I alluded to the creation of The Shack but I... and I want to get into some of your earlier history, as well, but let's go back to how this started because for DREAM THINK DOers so many people are working on a dream. Or maybe they're at a place where they are like, "I don't know that I even have a dream." And I don't think that you would have said a book was your dream as you're writing The Shack. Paul Young: No. Not at all. Mitch Matthews: So, yeah. So, Jodie and Alicia both ask big questions about, “What was the initial inspiration for writing the book?” “How did the idea begin?” So, let's start there. Paul Young: I was trying to do like the Bible says and submit to my wife. Mitch Matthews: Good word. You married up. You married up. So, if Kim says, you do. Right? Paul Young: Yeah, well. Mitch Matthews: Her question wasn't, "Paul write a book." What was her question? Paul Young: It wasn't. It was, "Someday," this is almost verbatim, and she said it over about four years, I just didn't feel ready until the year I turned 50 but she said, "Someday as a gift for our children, would you please write something that puts in one place how you think because you think outside the box...

My guest is Orville's J Lee.  Orville's J Lee is an actor, writer, director, and musician. He’s been a part of numerous shows like The Family Guy and American Dad. He also helped to write and produce and do voices for The Cleveland Show. Most recently though he has been rocking it as Lieutenant Commander John LaMarr on Fox's hit show The Orville. You probably know it but if you don't, check it out, you'll love it. Plus he just wrapped up production on his own film, one that he wrote, directed, and produced, it's called Wednesdays, we're going to be talking about that as well. Listen To The Podcast: RESOURCES: Instagram: @jleefilm Twitter: @jleefilm The Orville on Fox TRANSCRIPT:  J's got this awesome story you're going to love. He moved to LA with about 200 bucks in his pocket, worked his butt off to make it happen. He's also proud of his St. Louis roots and if you follow him on Instagram, as you should, you will know that his battle cries are #dobetter and #dothework, so it just seemed right to finally get him on DREAM THINK DO. J. Lee, welcome to the show man. J Lee: Hey. Yeah, what's happening? Thanks for having me, I appreciate it. Mitch Matthews: Absolutely. J Lee: Yeah. Mitch Matthews: I can tell you... DREAM THINK DO family, I got to meet J last year when two-time DREAM THINK DO guest Howard Berger and a good friend took my family and me around the set of The Orville and we got to meet J, which was so cool. I was a huge fan already, but man… when we got to meet you... you loved on my family.  I so appreciated that, man. J Lee: Yeah, for sure. Mitch Matthews: Then I got to dig into your story and wow.  You're one inspiring dude. J Lee: Yeah. You know, listen, I try to just ... You know we only get to go around this thing once as far as we know so I try to just be happy and try to keep a positive attitude whenever I can because life is already hard enough, you might as well try to be happy. Mitch Matthews: Yeah, absolutely. J Lee: But it was great meeting you and your family. You guys are so sweet, your family was nice and they were kind to me, so yeah that was nice. Mitch Matthews: I loved it, man. You hung out with us, you guys were in the midst of running around, the production's going on, but you stopped and hung out with us so it was just awesome. Mitch Matthews: Let's dive into your history because I know DREAM THINK DOers are just going to love your story, man. You grew up playing the piano. J Lee: Sure. Mitch Matthews: You played Carnegie Hall as a teenager, right? J Lee: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Mitch Matthews: You're an athlete, too. If I understand it correctly, your record still stands in your high school for the 300 hurdles. J Lee: I go back every year just to make sure nobody breaks it and if they do I told them, I'll lace my spikes back up and get back out there. I need to stand for a while. Mitch Matthews: That's right, let's do this. I love it. So then you go to Indiana University and the school of music there, Jacobs School of Music. You leave St. Louis after you graduate there, you move to LA with, if I'm understanding it, about two hundred bucks in your pocket. J Lee: Before I came to LA what happened was I had gone to school for classical piano and then I actually broke my thumb freshman year. I was on a scholarship and I break my thumb. Mitch Matthews: Holy cow. J Lee: That was the first time I had to look at my life and say, "Hey, what do I want to do?" Because I'd been playing piano my whole life. Mitch Matthews: Right. J Lee: I just didn't know if I wanted to continue down that path, being a concert pianist and everything. I had broken my thumb and that was the first time I had taken an acting class, so I kind of had that semester off. I remember my professor, Edmund Battersby. He has since passed away, he was a lovely, lovely man, an incredible teacher, and musician.

My guest is Rich Karlgaard. Rich is an entrepreneur turned publisher, in fact, he's the publisher for Forbes Magazine. He's an author and columnist, a board director, and Angel investor. He's experienced some true success, but he will also be the first to tell you that he was no child prodigy, and in many ways, he celebrates that. That's what led him to write his newest book called “Late Bloomer, The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement.” Listen To The Podcast: RESOURCES: https://www.latebloomer.com/ TRANSCRIPT:  Mitch Matthews: I think you're going to love this, I think you're going to love what Rich has to say. So, let's get to it.  Hey. Rich, welcome to DREAM THINK DO. Rich Karlgaard: A joy to be on your show, man. Mitch Matthews: I love it, man. I tell you ... well, before I hit record, I was kind of telling you, you surprised me this book. Rich Karlgaard: Well, thank you. In a good way? Mitch Matthews: In a good way, I should clarify it, a very good way. Rich Karlgaard: Well, yeah. A lot of people thought that a book on late bloomers coming from a Forbes publisher would simply be biography's on famous late bloomers like, Ray Crock or J.K. Rowling, people like that, but I wanted to write about why it is that we celebrate early bloomers today excessively. The damage that causes, and why late bloomers have so many gifts is validated by findings in neuroscience and by just looking around at some of the stories we ought of paid more attention to. Mitch Matthews: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing, I just kind of ... like some of the folks, I was kind of thinking, I expected some good stories, and you've got some great stories and there's no doubt. So it is full of inspiration as well. This really is not just written to people in their '40s, '50s, and '60s. That's kind of what I was thinking, but this really is for everyone. You've got stuff in there that my high-schooler could benefit from, parents should read and be thinking about as we're talking about raising our kids. Millennials and the young ones in the workplace can benefit from this because it helps them to understand how a better career works, and how our brain functions, all of that. So, there's a lot of meat ... there's a lot of gold in them there hills, is a better way to put it. So, I love it. Now, let's get into your story here first. Obviously, you had a lot of success over the years. Publisher of Forbes being one of those things top of the list, but you are also very open that you were no star student, not necessarily a star athlete, you wouldn't consider yourself a child prodigy, but you kind of celebrate that. Why is that? With a little bit of perspective, why is that something to be celebrated? Rich Karlgaard: Well, I'll just start, the brief background that you're referring to here, I was one of those kids in high school, I was a good but not great middle and long distance runner in high school. I got B's, I went to my local junior college, I improved to B pluses. I was actually, captain of my junior college cross-country team, but was kind of a low bar, and by a series of flukes, I got into Stanford as a transfer student. Stanford is a much easier institution to get into back then. I was from North Dakota, they were looking for people from obscurer states, and with a slide on their track and cross-country team, not a scholarship level, but at a level where the coach had probably had spoken to the admission's director. Anyway, I got in. Sure enough, way over my head, I took the easiest classes possible, classes with names like, "Sleep and Dreams," and "Human Sex," and "Film Aesthetics." Still, barely graduated. At age 25, when my college roommates were doing spectacular things in law, phycology, and one was working for the state shuttle program, I could hold no job greater than temporary typist, dishwasher, and security guard. One night when I was 25,

My guest is Paula Faris. As you probably know, Paula is a Senior National Correspondent for ABC News, and she's had one heck of a journey. She's won multiple Emmys reporting on politics, sports, entertainment, major stories of the day, she's interviewed political leaders, athletes, newsmakers, and even celebrities. Listen To The Podcast: RESOURCES:  TWITTER: @paulafaris JOURNEYS OF FAITH WITH PAULA FARIS   TRANSCRIPT:  I've got to say, to my fellow geeks out there, Paula has interviewed the cast from the most recent Star Wars movies, as well as The Avengers... like as in ALL of the Avengers. I mean, come on, right? Last fall, she walked away from a couple of the most coveted positions within her industry, being the co-anchor of Good Morning America weekend edition, as well as being a co-host of ABC's The View, all to do something she felt called to do. One of those things was to launch a podcast called “Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris.” Now I can tell you, this podcast has become one of my own favorite podcasts because Paula's doing this incredible job of talking with some of the world's most influential people about how their faith and spirituality guide them through the best and worst of times. I've got to say, it's pretty revolutionary. I don't think that's too strong a word, because she's open about her own faith as a Christian, but she's talking with people from a wide array of faith backgrounds. Like when I say that, I mean she's really talking with people, she's connecting, she's not debating, she's talking. She goes in curious, she honors the people's stories, it's just so interesting, eye-opening, refreshing, you've got to check it out. Seriously, this was a bold move, to launch something like this and do it in the way that she's been doing it. The more I've been listening to her show, the more I've wanted to have her on DREAM THINK DO, so we could talk with her about her journey and dig into some of the things she's been learning along the way. Let's get to this, Paula Faris, welcome to DREAM THINK DO. Paula Faris: Thank you so much, Mitch, I'm so honored. Mitch Matthews: This is awesome. Okay, so I know people probably know your name, they've seen you doing your thing, but what is an average day, a "normal" ... I'm doing air quotes because I'm guessing there's not really a normal day. Paula Faris: Yeah, let's do some air quotes. Mitch Matthews: What does a normal day look like for you right now? Paula Faris: A normal day, well it's a lot different than my normal day, say, a year ago, which weekends I was getting up at like three, 3:30 in the morning and going to anchor at Good Morning America weekend edition, and just working crazy hours, Fridays I did “The View.” Now I work primarily Monday through Friday, a day for me is, like for instance, today I got up early to do GMA, I filed a story for Good Morning America weekday edition, and I'm doing this podcast now, I have a shoot later for Good Morning America at Disney down in Brooklyn. It's a little bit of everything right now because I am a Senior National Correspondent. I'll file for Good Morning America, I'll file for World News Tonight, for Nightline, the various ABC platforms that we have. Then I do podcasts, so I've recorded a couple of podcasts this week for my new podcast, Journeys of Faith. By the way, I appreciate you plugging it and listening and supporting it. It's a mixed bag, but I'm really enjoying this new lane and this new kind of venture. I walked away from those two dream jobs, as you mentioned because I just needed some more balance. Now it's primarily Monday through Friday, and I'll fly, I'll travel occasionally for those interviews like you mentioned, The Avengers, Star Wars, that took me to LA and Chicago for those interviews, which is great. Mitch Matthews: My wife freaked when she also heard you were at the royal wedding last year, like are you kidding me? Paula Faris: I know,