My guest is Tom Ziglar. Among many things, Tom is the proud son of Zig Ziglar. He's also a bestselling author and international speaker. Listen To The Podcast: Resources: Interview: Mitch Matthews: Tom is also now the CEO of the Ziglar Corporation. Tom joined the Ziglar Corporation in 1987, but he started at the bottom. In fact, he started in the warehouse and routed through sales that went on to management then moved into leadership. He also speaks around the world and hosts the wildly popular Ziglar Show podcast. So you should check that out. He carries on that Ziglar philosophy. "You can have everything in life you want if you just help enough other people get what they want." I love that. That was a life-changing quote for me. His new book coming out is called Choose to Win: Transform your Life, One Simple Choice at a Time. When I heard about it, I knew I wanted to have Tom on the show because he's the real deal and he's all about getting you strategies that actually work. So let's get to this. Tom Ziglar, welcome to Dream, Think, Do buddy. Tom Ziglar: Oh man. Mitch, thanks for having me. Mitch Matthews: Absolutely, this is an honor, my friend. I've been following you for a while in a good way, not in a restraining order kind of way. Tom Ziglar: Are you stalking me? Mitch Matthews: Yeah, in a positive stalker kind of way. So yeah, take that however you want. I love it. I'm sure you get questions like this a bajillion times over, so I apologize, but I just have to ask, what was it like to grow up in the Ziglar household? Tom Ziglar: I'll tell you, it was amazing. I tell people all the time as good as dad was on stage, he was even better off stage. He was just ... When you think of, gosh, what would be the ultimate earthly father. Mitch Matthews: Right. Tom Ziglar: I think Zig Ziglar would be that. And then my mom, the redhead- Mitch Matthews: The redhead. Yes. Tom Ziglar: Dad said he never would have heard of Zig Ziglar if I hadn't been for the redhead. And so just to grow up in that family and Dad was always ... He never put the pressure on. He never said you're going to be in sales or you're going to be a speaker. He always said, hey, whatever you want to do, whatever your passion is, whatever your why is just ... I want you to pursue it with 100% effort and 100% integrity. And so, when you're raising kids, I mean what better message could you have than two parents who set the example. They're always there to talk and then they're behind you 100% as long as you're doing it with integrity and effort. I mean that's ... You can't ask for more than that. Mitch Matthews: That's a beautiful thing. It is amazing and it's ... I've had some other folks that had famous parents and it's interesting how that's not always the case. Sometimes that outer appearance is wonderful, amazing, but when they get home, they're a different person. So that's not surprising, but it's beautiful to hear. Well, one of the things I wondered about too was, what was that conversation like when you're deciding, hey, I think I want to come and work for Zig ... the Ziglar Corporation. What does that ... what does that conversation look like? Tom Ziglar: Well, I'll tell you what, it was pretty simple. I played golf in college and my goal was to be a professional PGA golfer and I graduated from college and I needed money to support my golf habit and I needed flexibility. Mitch Matthews: Yeah. Tom Ziglar: And dad was behind that 100%. And so I started off in the warehouse working [inaudible 00:04:49] depending on the time of year, 25 to 35 hours just there packing boxes and doing production work. And then I was playing golf 40 to 50 hours of practice and playing. So I had the flexibility, which is great to have that flexibility. And then I realized that those guys out there are really good after about a year and some injuries and I thought, you know what? Golf's not my future.

My Guest is Rock Thomas.  He's a self-made millionaire, bestselling author three times over. He became one of the top 50 realtors in the world.  He studied with some of the greats like Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, and Wayne Dyer, one-on-one. But most importantly, he's taken up a personal mission to help those who have been beaten up by life and he's helped them to retrain their thinking, find their self worth and also often help them to grow wealth and abundance in the process. He's definitely living the Dream Think Do life. So it's about dang time we had him on this show. Listen To The Podcast: Resources: Website: https://rockthomas.com/ Twitter: @rockthomas Instagram: @rockthomas FB: RockThomasOfficial Interview: Mitch Matthews: Rock Thomas, welcome to Dream Think Do, buddy. Rock Thomas: That's beautiful, man. Not only do you have a beautiful voice, but you articulate as well. So I'd like you to send me that recording and I'm going to put it on my phone first thing every morning when I wake up. Mitch Matthews: You got it. You got it. Tell you what I always say a good intro is my gift to my guests. You know, you deserve it for crying out loud. And yours, yours is so easy. I just, I really was blown away and I don't want to shortchange your story. I want to start with the story that really you covered in that goal cast video. Just so Dream Think Doers can know a little bit more of kind of where you came from. Take us back to your, to your childhood because this was, this was not an easy story. Rock Thomas: You know, I think we all grew up with a dream and then somewhere along the line often it gets crushed. And if you don't have the wherewithal or the resources of the guidance or the encouragement to revive it than most people live this life of quiet desperation and just trying to avoid pain, quite frankly. And I, fortunately, somehow, I think maybe through reading, I didn't grow up with the TV. I was, my parents got divorced at five and funnily enough, my sister and I grew up when I was around one and three, my mom adopted two other kids. So I was actually the youngest of four kids in the house, you know, back in the days when moms were raising kids single and dad worked, you know, till 7:00 at night. Then we got divorced and I lived with my mom for a while and I wanted more attention. She was a gypsy. So I didn't get that. I set things on fire and I fought with principals and I was that kid who was skinny but went into the new school and looked for the biggest kid and kicked him in the shins and said, what are you looking at? And- Mitch Matthews: It was a survival strategy, right? Like something you learn. But- Rock Thomas: Yeah, it's like if I can take on the biggest kid, who else is going to take me on? But after a while that got old as we changed, my mom had to relocate me from school to school and she finally shipped me off to my dad, my dad, my dad had remarried and now I was the youngest of seven. So my entire life was this battle of can somebody sees me, I got the hand me downs that are torn. Is there any food left? Can I say something? And my father's wife had married a guy who ended up in an insane asylum. So they treated her children in a special way because they were afraid that they had some mental issues. So they got away with things while I was always told to toe the line. So there was this separation. And I think that happiness in my experience comes a lot from connection, from feeling you're one with other people, you're around the fireplace at Christmas time and you're having a good time when you feel safe. And I never really had that. I always felt like I was about to be attacked or bullied or there'd be no food left. Mitch Matthews: Wow. Rock Thomas: So somewhere along the line I just started reading the books that were in my dad's library and I read this one book called, by Vernon Howard, Do What You Fear and It'll Disappear.

My guest is Laura Gassner Otting and her new book is called “Limitless: How to Ignore Everybody, Carve your Own Path, and Live Your Best Life.” In the book, Laura interviews highly successful globe changers and has uncovered strategies to help you get unstuck. Laura's background spans this world's of successful startups and non-profits as well as political and philanthropic landscapes. She's coming to us after being interviewed on the Today Show… so we're excited to have her on!   Listen To The Podcast: Resources: The Book:  Limitless The Assessment: limitlessassessment.com/DTD Instagram: @heyLGO Twitter: @heyLGO Interview:  LauraL Hey, hey out there to everyone in your Dream, Think, Doer Universe. I love that. I love people who are dreamers, thinkers, and doers. Mitch: Right? It's a great crew. And as we talked about before we hit record it's an awesome, awesome crew. We tend to totally offend grumpy people so there's just a lot of love here 'cause that's what we do, I love it. Laura: Fantastic. Mitch: I could go through the list of successes that you've had in your life, I mean you were appointed by President Bill Clinton to help shape AmeriCorps, you've helped grow startups and non-profits, you've been interviewing globe changers for this book, it's a bestseller, all of those things, but somebody might look at you and go, "Wait you've never felt stuck." How about you? What's a time in your life where you Laura personally felt stuck? Laura: Boy where do I start? You know it's really interesting this idea when people look at you and they go, "Oh she's got it all together. He's got it all together." Cause I really do think that people see us as the fully formed person we are today, and number one, I hope that I'm not fully formed, I hope there's still evolution and change and growth that's going to happen, because boy it would pretty boring to stop here, right? Mitch: Exactly. I'm done. Laura: Been so fun so far. Mitch: I'm done. Laura: I'm all done. So number one, A, I'm not fully formed and B, it's not that I came into the world as this I'm just maybe five or 10 or 25 years ahead of the person who's looking at me. I'm just the future them, and they look at me as this unachievable thing when in fact it's completely achievable if they dream, think, and do. So a time when I felt fully stuck was probably when I was at the big traditional gold standard search firm that I was at, and I was supposed to be happy. I had done all the right things, I had checked all the right boxes, I went to the right schools, I got the right jobs, I got the right promotions, and there I was as the youngest Vice President at this very well known search firm, and I wasn't happy. And I couldn't understand why I wasn't happy, and I thought about the thousands of people that I'd interviewed for jobs who were all at the top of their game, who all were successful, and not all of whom were happy. And I couldn't figure out why that was until I realized that I wasn't happy either. And then I looked around and I thought, "Well why am I here? Why did I join this firm?" And I joined this firm because it was the very top firm in the country, in the world that was doing specifically mission-driven non-profit executive search, and I thought I was there to change the world. Mitch: Yeah. Laura: But then I realized that I was actually there to create profit for the owners of the firm. So my job was to sit on one side of the table with the firm and on the other side of the table as my client who wanted to cure cancer, or save the whales, or feed the poor, or create educational access, or anything else that it might be. And in between us silent unspoken was the elephant, the profit, and loss statement of the firm. And it turned out that I had two masters. I was serving the firm, and I was also serving my clients, and the truth is I wanted to be on that side of the table with them and not on...

My guest is Eduardo Garcia. Eduardo is chef, entrepreneur, filmmaker, outdoorsman and philanthropist. I came across this story when I was checking out this amazing video series by Yeti called "The Hungry Life." I started to dig in and it took me down this amazing rabbit hole of inspiration and incredible stories. And great food too. Listen To The Podcast: Resources: www.montanamex.com www.chefeduardo.com www.chargedfilm.com Instagram: @chefeduardogarcia, @montanamex Mitch: The short version is that he grew up in Montana hunting, hiking, exploring and at about the age of 15 started to work at local restaurants.  He uncovered this love for creating amazing food. He went on to culinary school, wound up becoming a chef for the uber wealthy on yachts and in private homes, pretty cool. But after about 11 years he decided to come back home and launch a natural foods company called “Montana Mex” with his friends. But around that same time tragedy struck and I want him to tell you the story himself. But needless to say he battled back from some incredible odds. And when you hear the story you will know exactly what I'm talking about. Incredible odds sells it short. But Ed not only survived but he's thrived. He's created this incredible life. He is truly living the epitome of the dream think do life. So I had to have him on. I can't wait for this episode. So let's get to this. Mitch: Eduardo, welcome to DTD. Eduardo: Hey Mitch, I'm excited to be here. I'm super ready. Mitch: Exactly I love it. And you are sitting outside beautiful Bozeman, Montana where I used to live. So once I found that out I'm like oh my gosh... He's got to be on dream think do. I just wanted to come to your house though and do the interview. So we'll do that next week. Eduardo: Next time. Mitch: Yeah, exactly right. I love it. So you grew up in Montana. Did you grow up with a love for the outdoors or was that something that came on later in life? Eduardo: Yeah. I think when we moved to Montana I was six years old and it's kind of one of those things I think there's nature and nurture and where I was living was mountains and four distinct seasons. Yellowstone River a stones throw away and it was my sandbox. So I had no other options nor did I know any better and then of course through programs like Boy Scouts of America and then your community and your friends and your peers, you grow up in the outdoors. You grow up skiing. You grow up hiking. You grow up fishing. You grow up. This is your hood. This is the peaks, the valleys, the streams, the meadows of the Rocky Mountain west. Mitch: Yeah. And then you just dive in and have at it, right? Eduardo: Yeah you have to. They always say to live in a place like Montana especially you know if you do not take advantage or engage with the outdoors in some way not only are you missing out on one of the greatest boons of being in a place like this geographically, but you're probably going bonkers. Because there's nothing to do here. Mitch: Exactly right. Eduardo: And I mean from an outdoors man's perspective, I have a calendar that I call my recreational calendar and it's every month of the year this is where my focus is from an outdoor perspective. Mitch: And doing activities outside different types of activities and that kind of thing. Eduardo: Yeah. You know snowboarding and snow sports, snow shoeing, cross country skiing, picking up antlers, mushroom foraging, fly fishing, floating the rivers to then hunting in the fall, putting the garden away, and then all of a sudden you're back into winter and snow sports. So it's like. Mitch: Yeah I'll never forget we lived out there for a number of years.  We had a friend visit and he showed up on a Friday morning and that night my wife got home from work and I said, “What do you want to do?” and he's like, “Well what do you guys want to do?” I said,, “You want to go to the mountains. He's like yes.